Dimensions of Pain

Reposting the topic.

Reference:

loneliness
loss
shame
fear
betrayed
empathy

All of these pains have to do with [the self] and "bonds", things that are special to you. People are usually the strongest bonds with most effect. "Death" is usually the greatest causer of one feeling pain.

Empathy is feeling the pain of a bond.
Shame is the fault of a bond's pain.
Fear is the pain for oneself or a bond.
Betrayed is the pain of being cheated by a bond.
Loss is the pain of losing a bond.
Loneliness is the pain of having no bonds (in general or to a particular kind of bond).

Irrational pain D<

LokiBeragist wrote:Irrational pain D<

Not one at all...lol

Shock? Like, when you hear somebody died.
Before that loss or anything can set in, just the shock of what you hear

Originally I thought that might be one, but it's a thing that lasts only seconds. It doesn't envelop the person like shame, loss or fear does over a long period of time.

I disagree, Irrational pain is pain that doesnt exist but you believe it does.

Trust me. It's real.

I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.

Den wrote:I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.

Then I guess some people including meself, have lotsa glitches.

Yes, i know, I am of no help. I still must speak to my all-knowing sister at home. My dad gave up trying to argue with me about pain. (hehe)

Den wrote:I was talking to Ferret. =P And I do know that irrational pain does exist, but don't you think that irrational pain might be more of a "glitch" in the system and might just take form of the six pains? Like, irrationally shamed, or fearful.

Actually that was to ferret, my dumb ass wasnt logged in and was all O_O because I couldnt find quote x3

Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

Den wrote:

LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

Okay ^^ Gotcha.

Den wrote:

LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

But, I find failure different. Its not shame, more of loss.

Mike:
Pain is perspective. If you think your in pain, no matter how illogical, its pain

Treble wrote:

Den wrote:

LokiBeragist wrote:Oh And dont forget humiliation and failure. Im thinking myself around them because They can be triggers and reactions that share or result in pain. This one Id like for someone to concrit x3

The category of shame is broader than the word suggests. Shame deals with anything that has to do with the self:

guilt, shame, failure, humiliation, et cetera. It's usually involving self-dislike, pride, and the like.

But, I find failure different. Its not shame, more of loss.

Mike:
Pain is perspective. If you think your in pain, no matter how illogical, its pain

If you're feeling failure, that may lead to an inadequacy you see in yourself. If you do not feel shamed, then you are being betrayed (betrayed by fate: "It's not fair!" is loosely thrown in the direction of no one, thus fate) or feeling loss "losing something important, a bond: your ability). So honestly, it could go in several categories, so when I say failure in "shame", I mean the feeling of inadequacy.

There's a metasystem of pain in my list that I haven't got through, and the multiple looks on failure are testament to that. If you guys want to fill that out as well, go the hell ahead. Here are the words I've chosen to represent each group:

Trepidus
fear, horror, trepidation, shock, anxiety

Animosus
Empathy, sympathy

Solus
loneliness

Interitus
Loss

Desertus
Betrayed, sudden change, challenged

Dedecus
shame, inadequacy, guilt

Using those 6 things would be a great plotline for a story...

Yeah, I know. =P Don't you remember? This pain system is the core of my book's plot. haha

I like Trepidus best c:

LokiBeragist wrote:I like Trepidus best c:

Personally, I'm fond of them all. I like the sound of Solus the most though. Dedecus, I find I can relate to the most.

Den wrote:

LokiBeragist wrote:I like Trepidus best c:

Personally, I'm fond of them all. I like the sound of Solus the most though. Dedecus, I find I can relate to the most.

I like the way Solus looks the most, but, Dedecus sounds the best to me.
I most relate to Desertus and Trepidus

I relate to hunger pains the bestest. ^_^ I'm always hungry...

sleeepygoron wrote:I relate to hunger pains the bestest. ^_^ I'm always hungry...

That just made me happy xD

"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."

Treble wrote:"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."

So I love food more than myself?

Anyway, it's a good quote. I just couldn't help myself.

Treble wrote:"Real loss is only possible when you love something more than you love yourself."

Suicide~

I just thought, I hope you guys know how to pronounce those latin words; otherwise, they'll have less or more appeal to you.

Either way, it seems you're all accepting the dimensions of pain I've come up with? Or are satisfied for the most part?

Den wrote:I just thought, I hope you guys know how to pronounce those latin words; otherwise, they'll have less or more appeal to you.

Either way, it seems you're all accepting the dimensions of pain I've come up with? Or are satisfied for the most part?

I really think there should be a category for physical pain
Because in a way, it is a type of pain inside your brain